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Saturday, 4 July 2015

Plymouth Road to Recovery cult group's motto!

No one likes us We don't care”

We wonder why! Could this be the answer?

Selfishness—self-centredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles. Driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity, we step on the toes of our fellows and they retaliate. Sometimes they hurt us, seemingly without provocation, but we invariably find that at some time in the past we have made decisions based on self which later placed us in a position to be hurt.” (Alcoholics Anonymous, How It Works, p. 62)

(our emphases)

Nah! Couldn't be! Everyone knows that the Roadies are ALWAYS RIGHT... and the rest of us … well we're ALWAYS WRONG! The very idea!!

And (in line with the above motto):

Wayne's latest cogently argued response from Facebook (yet another selfie!). Impressive eh! Tells you all you need to know about the …... schmuck! But isn't the grin beginning to look a teensy-weensy bit ....... forced??

Wayne truly is the 'gift that keeps on giving'!


The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS Thanks to our correspondent for sending in these screen-shots

PPS  Plymouth Intergroup corruption

Friday, 3 July 2015

'Schmucks' out themselves!

We have a winner for our 'Spot the schmuck' competition! Bill W (could this be their real name?) who hails from Plymouth (what a coincidence!) correctly identified our mystery 'schmuck'.

As promised here is a 100 per cent genuine Cheshire Cat smile c/o Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (a place mostly inhabited by strange surreal creatures whose contact with reality is always somewhat tenuous) (sounds a bit like the Plymouth Road to Recovery cult group!)

The Cheshire cat as illustrator John Tenniel envisioned it in the 1866 publication

You may recall from the original story that the cat would fade away from time to time leaving only its smile floating in the air. Again this is strangely reminiscent of the Road to Recovery crew: All surface! No substance! Remember: “Frothy emotional appeal seldom suffices. The message which can interest and hold these alcoholic people must have depth and weight. In nearly all cases, their ideals must be grounded in a power greater than themselves [not a sponsor], if they are to re-create their lives” (Alcoholics Anonymous, The Doctor's Opinion, p. xxviii)

But it would seem that Bill is not alone in correctly identifying our mystery 'schmuck', or indeed a whole gaggle of them!

It's official. They're ALL schmucks! And apparently in “full flight [from reality]” (ibid. p. xxvi) Oh dear!


The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Thursday, 2 July 2015

Portrait of a 'schmuck'

What a word is 'schmuck'! How much meaning is so mellifluously even onomatopoeically conveyed in that one (or is it two?) short syllable ….. ssschhhmmuuck! How evocative is the collision of the softened sibilant with the staccato conclusion intimating a confluence of sheer stupidity with utter contempt.

But we must abandon our aural appreciation here and turn to a more mundane but no less important consideration of its meaning, and even manifestation.

Schmuck - a stupid, contemptible person. An oaf. A Yiddish word meaning 'penis'. In this context: a 'prick'. A dull, stupid, fatuous person. An ass, fool, idiot, imbecile, jackass, mooncalf, moron, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, simple, simpleton, softhead, tomfool...... (pause for breath) …... cretin, ding-dong, dip, goof, jerk, nerd, schmo, turkey.

See 'schmuck'

By now we're certain you must be quite intrigued as to what these creatures might look like? Surely theirs must be a degraded existence, their vacuity expressed in every moral lineament? For your instruction if not edification, and as an introduction, we present merely the precursory stages tending towards this awful affliction. To go further we fear would endanger your very souls, a venture we would not even dare to contemplate!

Firstly: our mystery, trainee 'schmuck' (1st Dan)

In this instance you will observe the narcissistic traits nearly fully expressed: a 'selfie' layered with the Vatican Flag (a hint of grandiosity perhaps)! Not quite an imbecile but well on the way!

A third Dan 'schmuck' (but cut off in his prime):

David B (on the right) with our mystery, trainee 'schmuck'

Here you will note the 'happy, joyous and free' rictus grins which mimic smiles but are merely overlays presented to the world to obscure a near complete moral bankruptcy

A fifth Dan 'schmuck' (on the phone). A very VERY VERY IMPORTANT SCHMUCK!:

Clancy (on the left) accompanied again by our very own grinning moron!

A hopeless case well beyond any possibility of redemption! But you'll note that our trainee 'schmuck' has been working hard on his smile. And if he had a tail he'd be wagging that too! Bless! You almost feel sorry for the poor.....schmuck! …... Nah! Not really!

Down boy! Down!


The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous …...)

PS What do you call a collection of 'schmucks'? A 'gaggle', a 'bellowing' or even a 'murder' (sometimes feels like it!)? No..... the correct denomination for a collection of 'schmucks' is a “Road to Recovery'.

PPS Anyone guessing the identity of our mystery 'schmuck' send in your answer and you'll receive from us a great big …... SMILE!

Wednesday, 1 July 2015

Plymouth Road to Recovery cult group (contd)

For previous entries see here

Our correspondent observes:

The Plymouth Road to Recovery Group is where arrogance masquerades as sobriety.
It is where many young men are controlled and kept in line.
It is where people are told that if they leave they will drink again.
It is where people are ordered to attend meetings.
It is where people are ordered to place commitment to the group before commitment to family or outside interest.
It is where fear dominates and is used by Wayne P, Alexis K and Jon F to keep their empire intact.
It is these three that have covered up a fraud commited by one of their sponsees in the sum of £14,000.”


Plymouth R2R have concerned themselves, for many years, with 'Questions for Conference' and have ignored the many questions for R2R.

Wayne P (Caesar) on facebook strikes back at those who oppose him. He now has a loyal gang of followers who he will one day lead into the gates of his own insanity.”


A 'safe' pair of hands!

Plymouth Road To Recovery Intergroup have taken steps to ensure that there will be no further acts of fraud committed. They have voted in one of their own members (Ben B) as the new Chairperson. Ben's greatest asset for the post is his sheer arrogance, which is an absolute requirement for membership of the R2R.”


The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

Tuesday, 30 June 2015

Conference questions not quite up to par! (contd)

Would Conference please discuss and make recommendations on the current wording in the A.A. literature and on the website regarding Open Meetings with a view to making it plainer that those attending A.A. meetings have some connection with alcoholism, either their own or somebody else’s.

1) Background material:

Open Meetings statement (see the national website);
Front covers of the London Where to Find and the
Where to Find A.A. Great Britain and English Speaking Europe.
The A.A. Preamble
Traditions 3, 5, 6 and 10.

2) Recommendation

The first paragraph of the website statement under the headings ‘About AA Meetings’ ‘Open Meetings’ states the case clearly that ‘Open’ meetings are for anyone wanting to solve a personal drinking problem, and for friends and families of those wanting to solve a drinking problem.

The statement on the front covers of the two meeting directories, “Nonalcoholics may attend meetings listed as ‘open’ should I think for clarity and in keeping with A.A.s primary purpose, be changed and carry the same sentence or something similar.


The term and wording “Nonalcoholics may attend meetings listed as ‘open’ on the covers of the two directories would seem not to serve our primary purpose as stated in the last two lines of the Preamble.

It is the case that many who have addictions other than alcohol go along to open meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous for their therapeutic benefit. Such individuals are not attending an A.A. meeting because they are supporting a family member or friend with a drinking problem, or because they have a desire to stop drinking (they may be moderate drinkers) they are attending because they have an addiction, and want to draw strength and comfort from our mature and strong Fellowship. Such individuals frequently share regardless of the fact that alcohol may not be their problem. In this case I feel that Traditions 3, 5, 6 and 10 are being contravened.

In this era where the words “recovery” and “in recovery” have become umbrella terms for those sober from alcohol, clean from drugs or abstinent from sex/food/or rock and roll, Alcoholics Anonymous has a real obligation to hold firmly and clearly to our primary purpose.

Terms of Reference No. 7 Background material did not match question and is already covered in AA literature.

Comment: Too true! It is known that some therapists and treatments centres are advising clients who don't meet our membership requirement to attend AA meetings simply for their therapeutic value (and the fact that they're free!) with a total disregard (thereby demonstrating their disrespect) for our primary purpose Of course the following statements may be read out (where appropriate, and in addition to the Preamble) to clarify what this purpose is.

Source: http://www.aa.org/assets/en_US/f-17_primarypurposestatementcard.pdf 

Furthermore it is perfectly legitimate for members to point out to the interlopers where necessary that whereas they have our sympathy (and perhaps even empathy) they are quite definitely in the WRONG place!

At this point it might be worth considering the potential impact of the 'chit' system (court mandated attendance) on the fellowship where individuals may be referred - or compelled - to attend AA meetings who don't fall into the category of drinker which AA caters for ie. the chronic alcoholic. These individuals may be sent to us purely on the basis of having some kind of drinking problem associated with their offending behaviour. This does not mean they are necessarily alcoholics, and certainly does not imply that AA is the best place for them. But a government looking to make swingeing cuts in public expenditure ie. ours, might be tempted not only to 'dump' these individuals on us but also anyone with any kind of addiction problem in order to save money. The consequences for AA in Great Britain could be as devastating as they have been in some parts of the US already.


The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS For AA Minority Report 2013 click here

Monday, 29 June 2015

Conference questions not quite up to par! (contd)

Would Conference like to give their approval (or otherwise) of individual members keeping their GPs informed of AA meeting in their areas. This is a very inexpensive way of spreading the message.


It came about when my GP asked me some years ago whether there was a list of AA meetings. I gave her the green one (i.e. without any members’ telephone numbers on it) and have since kept her up to date when a new one is issued. She seems pleased to have it. As you know it also gives our various helplines. It seems to be an effective and inexpensive way of keeping our GPs in the picture and since they presumably are aware of our states of health they will also hopefully observe how effective AA is.

Terms of Reference No. 7 A local PI issue – does not need Conference approval.

Comment: Bloody excellent idea! Who'd've thought common sense might break out in AA. This is how we're supposed to operate. Low key, informal, personal ie the direct antithesis of the AA 'promoters' with their advertising campaigns, banners, meetings at the House of Commons etc. Keep it Simple. Keep it Personal.


The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS For AA Minority Report 2013 click here

Sunday, 28 June 2015

More background to Plymouth Intergroup fraud allegations

See here for previous entries

So, the Outgoing Chairman is Dave M, he's not from Roads ….... He never once asked to check the books, and has all but shrugged off all responsibility for the events.......

Matt S from Roads audited the accounts, at least two weeks prior to AA Plymouth knowing the details.

Now, a timeline -

About 4 weeks ago AA Plymouth heard the rumours and many Group Consciences were called to discuss the vague details. Most groups voted for no further action to be taken, as we were all informed that the money had been repaid.

It wasn't until 2 weeks later that the amount of £14k was announced. And many groups were very vocal in acknowledging that if the amount was known about pre-emergency Intergroup meeting, then the voting may have taken a very different course.

It was around this time that the name of Mike M …....came to light, as well as the fact that he is employed by the ….....

Intergroup on Sunday 14th was an interesting affair. Dave M chaired the part of the meeting dealing with this issue. Yes! One of the key members, the joint signature bearer of the account, the guy who's signatures was forged, who never checked the books for 3 or 4 years - chaired the part of the meeting regarding his shared incompetence!!!!!

And as stated before - he is maintaining a presence within Intergroup as Prison Liaison Officer!


AND Mr Chairman reports that those above him have advised that it's a GOOD thing that the police aren't getting involved!! Well, that's ok, we'll all be complicit shall we?

And then comes the group consciences following Intergroup, where Mr Chairman accused people of lobbying to get the police involved, until he was shouted down by another AA member - having advised them to "be careful who they listen to"

What a shame he didn't take that advice.



Forgot to inform you that at Region the Regional Reps, both of which are from RTR, refused to read out a letter/statement to Intergroup regarding the financial issues. The Alternative Conference Delegate from the Kingsbridge group was instead forced to do this.

There were, apparently, some arguments before the statement and after it was delivered to region.

[What] Region did? Well, who knows”

RTR watchers at Intergroup regularly heckle other members during debates or when it comes to a non RTR member speaking. No chairman ever challenges, and Dave M could or would never do it. Pretty rotten, huh?”

(Edits to preserve anonymity)

Comment: Gob smacked just about sums it up! Plymouth Intergroup is clearly rotten to the core! But would you expect anything different from a service structure run by the cult?! The police, however, have now been notified of the allegations by us, and have been supplied with all the relevant information at our disposal.


The Fellas (Friends of Alcoholics Anonymous)

PS Our thanks to our correspondent